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It's actually no surprise really. Our society has been heading down the path of degeneracy for quite some time now. Things that in the past would have gotten a person arrested and put away for a long time are now celebrated, and those who oppose such behaviors are called "haters". (I'm thinking here of inappropriate, quite graphic so-called "books" that very small children really should not be made to see at school). Keep up the great work Nathan, as unpleasant and revolting as it can be at times. You shine a candle in the darkness. A true hero to cats and dogs everywhere!

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I am so sorry for Professor Singer. Failing to find a consenting adult in his own species, he can only find sexual pleasure by forcing himself on unwitting other species. They may not know what is going on but he does. How about an inflatable as a holiday gift completed with a jar of clover leaf honey? A sweet encounter indeed.

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I always knew, from my days in academia, that these so called scientists, researchers, philosophers etc are among the most stupid and cruel humans. This psychopath proves the truth of this. I've never read such appalling statements as spewed forth by this amoral, brainless dirtbag. How he managed to publish this garbage is beyond me. That he is accepted by colleagues is truly vomitous.

I am truly grateful to you, Nathan, for dragging this evil out into the light, although it must take every ounce of fortitude for you to do so. This world grows darker by the day, and animals need our voice and our protection more than ever. The world needs to be rid of Peter Singer and others of his ilk.

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Thank you Chris. I've been in a dark place this week.

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I am sorry to hear you have been in a dark space. Narcissists always find a way to climb into public view. It is about "look at me" and when they can't find a legitimate subject and are out of ideas in the publish or perish world they go for shock value. What would Dr Freud say about Peter Singer's trying to come up with an effort to legitimize bestiality? Only his unconscious knows. Must be hell of a ride for Peter.

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"It is about 'look at me' and when they can't find a legitimate subject and are out of ideas in the publish or perish world they go for shock value."

Yes, and they are indifferent to the consequences.

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They are. What is hardest to sort out is what does one do then? Like Darth Vader they have gone to the dark side from raising money and consciousness about the plights of animals to using animals to elevate themselves. Along the way they cause harm because they strip away the boundaries of decency. Ridicule and pointing out the harm helps but for those waiting for permission to be cruel, that permission is granted. I guess we just must believe that most persons are kind, that there is a full measure of kindness in the world and know there will always be some malignant beings among us. And we will out run them. Most of all thank you for being there for the good, day after day after day. It can be tough some days. Still keep the light on shining through the window.

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Hang in there Nathan, I hear you. The suffering always rests on the wrong shoulders. With the inundation of petitions to punish animal abusers that comes to the inbox every day--each cruelty case worse than the next--now something so twisted it's incomprehensible, depression lurks around every corner. It always feels like a losing battle to make a safe, clean world for animals. Take care of yourself and remember, there's a reason for this fight🌹

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And in the past I read Animal Liberation and admired the author for writing this book. What has happened to his intellect and his morality? He's become unitelligble and immoral, no longer fit to write about humans or animals.

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Yes, it was defining for me in my 20s.

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Absurdly INSANE — how could one even conjure up an argument defending and promoting bestiality? — It is wrong — it is a crime — it is cruel — Animals SUFFER the most — PERIOD — Thankfully, most people do NOT suffer from this pathology -- CRT (Critical Race Theory) & its propagation throughout society is quite dangerous and we need to be vigilant -- THANK YOU for revealing this horror.

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